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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://acelebrationofcurves.com/2007/12/26/random-rants-and-dubious-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pffft, I say.  It would be a nice world where &quot;I&#039;d like to lose a little weight&quot; and &quot;I think I&#039;ll get a perm&quot; were given about the same weight.  Both involve changing habits, in many cases both are primarily cosmetic concerns, and neither of them are things other people need to vilify you for.

It is perfectly possible to &quot;feel fat&quot; when you&#039;re sedentary and eating more than you think you should, no matter what you actually weigh.  If you don&#039;t like that feeling, change it!  Get up, be more active, really look at what you eat!  There&#039;s no shame in noticing that your protein intake is a little lower than you like, or dang girl, looks like a snow storm hit your fries and changing it, so why should changing anything else about your diet be hurtful?

It seems to me that what is needed is less judgment, not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pffft, I say.  It would be a nice world where &#8220;I&#8217;d like to lose a little weight&#8221; and &#8220;I think I&#8217;ll get a perm&#8221; were given about the same weight.  Both involve changing habits, in many cases both are primarily cosmetic concerns, and neither of them are things other people need to vilify you for.</p>
<p>It is perfectly possible to &#8220;feel fat&#8221; when you&#8217;re sedentary and eating more than you think you should, no matter what you actually weigh.  If you don&#8217;t like that feeling, change it!  Get up, be more active, really look at what you eat!  There&#8217;s no shame in noticing that your protein intake is a little lower than you like, or dang girl, looks like a snow storm hit your fries and changing it, so why should changing anything else about your diet be hurtful?</p>
<p>It seems to me that what is needed is less judgment, not more.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ_in_VA</title>
		<link>http://acelebrationofcurves.com/2007/12/26/random-rants-and-dubious-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ_in_VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, and yes. And some days it is so overwhelming - not only do I struggle with accepting my body as it is, but I struggle with the guilt associated with not being true to my Fat Acceptance beliefs. I don&#039;t want to diet. I do wish I was thinner. I think about food constantly. I&#039;m mad at the fates for losing the &quot;thin&quot; lottery. I&#039;ve lost and gained and lost and gained and I know how futile it is and yet... and yet... I still say things like &quot;I don&#039;t want to be thin. I just want to fit into a size 18&quot; or the like.

I&#039;m one of those folks who feels out of place in the HAES movement. I&#039;m a type 2 diabetic with disordered eating issues. I don&#039;t exercise. I know I should. I feel like I&#039;m the person that every fat critic out there is talking about - doesn&#039;t eat right, doesn&#039;t exercise, is to blame for my own weight issues. But I have dieted, I have exercised, I have lost weight - only to put it back on again. 

Thanks for the post. It&#039;s good to know that I&#039;m not the only one who thinks like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, and yes. And some days it is so overwhelming &#8211; not only do I struggle with accepting my body as it is, but I struggle with the guilt associated with not being true to my Fat Acceptance beliefs. I don&#8217;t want to diet. I do wish I was thinner. I think about food constantly. I&#8217;m mad at the fates for losing the &#8220;thin&#8221; lottery. I&#8217;ve lost and gained and lost and gained and I know how futile it is and yet&#8230; and yet&#8230; I still say things like &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be thin. I just want to fit into a size 18&#8243; or the like.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those folks who feels out of place in the HAES movement. I&#8217;m a type 2 diabetic with disordered eating issues. I don&#8217;t exercise. I know I should. I feel like I&#8217;m the person that every fat critic out there is talking about &#8211; doesn&#8217;t eat right, doesn&#8217;t exercise, is to blame for my own weight issues. But I have dieted, I have exercised, I have lost weight &#8211; only to put it back on again. </p>
<p>Thanks for the post. It&#8217;s good to know that I&#8217;m not the only one who thinks like this.</p>
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		<title>By: vesta44</title>
		<link>http://acelebrationofcurves.com/2007/12/26/random-rants-and-dubious-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>vesta44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Meowser said, we all have Icky Body Days. I&#039;ve been fat for most of my life, and diets and WLS didn&#039;t help that any. Now, I&#039;m following the same eating plan that DH has to follow to keep his blood sugar under control (he&#039;s type 2 diabetic). I&#039;ve lost 15 lbs in probably..... 4 months. I&#039;m getting a recumbent bike so I can start exercising more. If I lose weight, fine, if I don&#039;t, fine. Yeah, I&#039;d like to be thinner, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a realistic goal. That doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m a traitor to FA, and it doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re a traitor either. Like others have said, we&#039;re human and it&#039;s really a long, hard road getting past all the programming that thin is the be-all, end-all of a woman&#039;s existence. I don&#039;t think those thoughts ever go totally away, but I do think it&#039;s possible to have them less and less often as time goes by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Meowser said, we all have Icky Body Days. I&#8217;ve been fat for most of my life, and diets and WLS didn&#8217;t help that any. Now, I&#8217;m following the same eating plan that DH has to follow to keep his blood sugar under control (he&#8217;s type 2 diabetic). I&#8217;ve lost 15 lbs in probably&#8230;.. 4 months. I&#8217;m getting a recumbent bike so I can start exercising more. If I lose weight, fine, if I don&#8217;t, fine. Yeah, I&#8217;d like to be thinner, but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a realistic goal. That doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m a traitor to FA, and it doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re a traitor either. Like others have said, we&#8217;re human and it&#8217;s really a long, hard road getting past all the programming that thin is the be-all, end-all of a woman&#8217;s existence. I don&#8217;t think those thoughts ever go totally away, but I do think it&#8217;s possible to have them less and less often as time goes by.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been rejected from many body positive and fat acceptance groups because I am &quot;too small&quot; (a size 14) and desire to lose weight.

I read fat acceptance blogs in order to regain and rebuild my own self esteem and positivity, but I feel that I am denied participation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been rejected from many body positive and fat acceptance groups because I am &#8220;too small&#8221; (a size 14) and desire to lose weight.</p>
<p>I read fat acceptance blogs in order to regain and rebuild my own self esteem and positivity, but I feel that I am denied participation.</p>
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		<title>By: Beck</title>
		<link>http://acelebrationofcurves.com/2007/12/26/random-rants-and-dubious-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I&#039;m not too late to post, but I&#039;m new to the fatosphere and someone else tagged Jane Hirschman&#039;s book &quot;When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies&quot;. I just started it yesterday. Whooowee. It&#039;s an eye-opener! It covers (in the first 2 chapters) exactly what you&#039;re discussing here. Please take a few minutes next time you&#039;re in a book store and look at it. It might be of some help.

And, thank you for your post. I needed to read it today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I&#8217;m not too late to post, but I&#8217;m new to the fatosphere and someone else tagged Jane Hirschman&#8217;s book &#8220;When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies&#8221;. I just started it yesterday. Whooowee. It&#8217;s an eye-opener! It covers (in the first 2 chapters) exactly what you&#8217;re discussing here. Please take a few minutes next time you&#8217;re in a book store and look at it. It might be of some help.</p>
<p>And, thank you for your post. I needed to read it today.</p>
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		<title>By: Midsize Lurker</title>
		<link>http://acelebrationofcurves.com/2007/12/26/random-rants-and-dubious-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Midsize Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm...if you suspect your weight gain isn&#039;t natural for you, maybe you can go get your thyroid or ovaries checked?  Though, from what I&#039;ve been reading on the Fatosphere, that might lead to your doctor bitching at you to stop eating all the junk food you&#039;re probably not eating and exercise like an Olympian.

Also, what were your habits like before you gained the weight?  Were you dieting at all?  If so, that could be what did you in.  And how old are you?  People tend to naturally get a bit stockier into their 50s.

I&#039;m not sure what to think of the whole &quot;who is a fat acceptor and who isn&#039;t&quot; debate...surely there must be a place for people who are trying to become fully fat-accepting but are still struggling with deeply entrenched habits of mind.  Some acceptance bloggers relapse into dieting mentalities or eating disorders on occasion.  People aren&#039;t perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230;if you suspect your weight gain isn&#8217;t natural for you, maybe you can go get your thyroid or ovaries checked?  Though, from what I&#8217;ve been reading on the Fatosphere, that might lead to your doctor bitching at you to stop eating all the junk food you&#8217;re probably not eating and exercise like an Olympian.</p>
<p>Also, what were your habits like before you gained the weight?  Were you dieting at all?  If so, that could be what did you in.  And how old are you?  People tend to naturally get a bit stockier into their 50s.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to think of the whole &#8220;who is a fat acceptor and who isn&#8217;t&#8221; debate&#8230;surely there must be a place for people who are trying to become fully fat-accepting but are still struggling with deeply entrenched habits of mind.  Some acceptance bloggers relapse into dieting mentalities or eating disorders on occasion.  People aren&#8217;t perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Melsky</title>
		<link>http://acelebrationofcurves.com/2007/12/26/random-rants-and-dubious-doubts/comment-page-1/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Melsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people see any attempt to be less fat as a betrayal and they are very vocal about it.  It&#039;s really threatening to them.  Anyone who changes their habits with a view towards losing weight is derisively labeled a &quot;dieter&quot;.  I am not a fat acceptance person for that reason, I think people should be able to to what they wish with their bodies.  

I went from size 12 to size 24 in the course of a couple of years, not from binge eating, just eating too much of the wrong foods and not exercising.  In the past four years I have gotten more active, taking long walks, going to the gym, lifting weights and getting into skiing.  I&#039;ve made friends who like to do active stuff instead of just going to restaurants and bars.  So far I am down to a 16.  That&#039;s three years of slow, continuous fat loss.

I think if people are happy being fat no matter if they got there from overeating or if it&#039;s just the way they are, I&#039;m happy for them.  If people would like to change their body by becoming more muscular or thinner in a healthy way, I wish them well too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people see any attempt to be less fat as a betrayal and they are very vocal about it.  It&#8217;s really threatening to them.  Anyone who changes their habits with a view towards losing weight is derisively labeled a &#8220;dieter&#8221;.  I am not a fat acceptance person for that reason, I think people should be able to to what they wish with their bodies.  </p>
<p>I went from size 12 to size 24 in the course of a couple of years, not from binge eating, just eating too much of the wrong foods and not exercising.  In the past four years I have gotten more active, taking long walks, going to the gym, lifting weights and getting into skiing.  I&#8217;ve made friends who like to do active stuff instead of just going to restaurants and bars.  So far I am down to a 16.  That&#8217;s three years of slow, continuous fat loss.</p>
<p>I think if people are happy being fat no matter if they got there from overeating or if it&#8217;s just the way they are, I&#8217;m happy for them.  If people would like to change their body by becoming more muscular or thinner in a healthy way, I wish them well too.</p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember having a similar conversation with you at BlogHer -- it really doesn&#039;t matter what the Fat Acceptance crowd thinks of your goals, what matters is what you think.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No matter what you do, you will never get the rest of the world to unanimously approve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember having a similar conversation with you at BlogHer &#8212; it really doesn&#8217;t matter what the Fat Acceptance crowd thinks of your goals, what matters is what you think.  </p>
<p>No matter what you do, you will never get the rest of the world to unanimously approve.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a traitor?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To which cause? To fat acceptance? To feminism? To your preferred political party?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First, I think more important than any of those things is making sure you are not a traitor to yourself. Which means not exchanging running yourself down with diet talk and self-hatred for running yourself down with telling yourself you&#039;re not a &quot;good enough&quot; FA activist or whatever. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Secondly, I think as Meowser said, we all have days when the dominant paradigm gets us down and we think, &quot;Good grief, why can&#039;t I just assimilate instead of having to swim against the current all the time?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Which doesn&#039;t make us anything but human. No one can be a revolutionary 24/7 without burning themselves to a cinder. Some days, we&#039;re just women and men, living our lives and doing the best we can with whatever tools we&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a traitor?</p>
<p>To which cause? To fat acceptance? To feminism? To your preferred political party?</p>
<p>First, I think more important than any of those things is making sure you are not a traitor to yourself. Which means not exchanging running yourself down with diet talk and self-hatred for running yourself down with telling yourself you&#8217;re not a &#8220;good enough&#8221; FA activist or whatever. </p>
<p>Secondly, I think as Meowser said, we all have days when the dominant paradigm gets us down and we think, &#8220;Good grief, why can&#8217;t I just assimilate instead of having to swim against the current all the time?&#8221;</p>
<p>Which doesn&#8217;t make us anything but human. No one can be a revolutionary 24/7 without burning themselves to a cinder. Some days, we&#8217;re just women and men, living our lives and doing the best we can with whatever tools we&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Corinna Makris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinna Makris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have it connected in my brain that any unpleasant experience is directly related to my body shape. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That wouldn&#039;t have happened if I wasn&#039;t so fat.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That wouldn&#039;t have happened if my boobs weren&#039;t so big.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That wouldn&#039;t have happened if I wasn&#039;t so tall.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That wouldn&#039;t have happened if I was just a little taller.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That wouldn&#039;t have happened if my hair/eyes/face/hands/feet/weight/height was just fucking different.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve worked really hard to love myself and to see that I can have anything that I want -- looking exactly as I do. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And then some days I have, as meowser put it &quot;Icky Body Days.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have it connected in my brain that any unpleasant experience is directly related to my body shape. </p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t have happened if I wasn&#8217;t so fat.</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t have happened if my boobs weren&#8217;t so big.</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t have happened if I wasn&#8217;t so tall.</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t have happened if I was just a little taller.</p>
<p>That wouldn&#8217;t have happened if my hair/eyes/face/hands/feet/weight/height was just fucking different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked really hard to love myself and to see that I can have anything that I want &#8212; looking exactly as I do. </p>
<p>And then some days I have, as meowser put it &#8220;Icky Body Days.&#8221;</p>
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